Episode 19: Financial Pains & Blessings in our Life with Minister Jim Renke

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On this episode of the Build Your Life Podcast with Financial Expert John Browning, John has a powerful conversation with Dr. Jim Renke about financial pains and blessings in our life. Join us for this candid discussion. 

You can find Dr. Jim Renke, Regional Minister, Upper Mississippi Region of NAB online at www.jimrenke.com.

Visit www.GuardianRockWealth.com to learn more about what John can do for you. Or, give us a call at (312) 372-5000.

Welcome to the building your life podcast with John Browning. Building your life as a relaxed and unedited conversation with financial expert John Browning. John's the founder of Guardian Rock Wealth in Lake Forest, Illinois. He's also the author of the Book Build Your Life, not a portfolio, a guide to your financial future based on your personal values. Now you can purchase John's book on Amazon or you can stay around to the end of today show and I'll tell you how to get a free copy milk right to your door. I'm Michael Lawn, your host for the next few minutes as we chat with financial expert, business owner and author John Well, everyone, we've given Michael the day off today and we have a special guests with us. His name is Jim Rinky. He's a pastor, consultant and currently regional minister for the Upper Mississippi region for the North American Baptist Association, and what we're here to talk about today is that Jim is the author of an intriguing and informative book called transformed pain, and you can find that on Amazon and I highly recommended. I was able to get a little bit of an early copy because Jim and I go way back and without further ado, I just like to introduce Jim and Jim give us just a quick sum worry of what it is that you do in your normal, everyday life and what you're kind of your personal mission is. Yeah, thanks, John. It's really good to be here and love, love the chance to share the platform here with you. So what I do is I spend a lot of time with leaders and specifically, or more specifically, pastors who lead congregations. So really leaders of leaders and and I tried to I do some coaching within I step in in times of crisis and and conflict...

...and try to help bring peace and help them find a way through difficult season. I help organizations that are in transition find new leadership and develop their leadership. So that's kind of what I do in my everyday job and, I say probably sits very well with my my own personal mission was, which is to come alongside people and help them, through the seasons of their life, understand what might be happening. The purpose is for what's happening and how they can step through it in a positive way. So I don't want people getting stuck. I want to I want to help people move forward in their own personal lives and their work that they do and in their relationships. Yeah, you know, that's an interesting comment. You don't want people getting stuck. It's something that we talked about on an earlier podcast, building your life podcast, which was more about getting stuck because you feel like either there's there's not a way out of your financial situation or you feel like there's no way you can make the amount of money that you need to make to give yourself your own personal paycheck protection program which is what we help people do. But there's another form of getting stuck and that's just getting stuck period in your life because it's something that's happened. So I kind of get that. But you wrote the book transformed pain and again, that's available on Amazon right. Yeah, it is. Okay. Well, the when you first wrote that and you first started talking about it, the title really intrigued me and, you know, knowing you as well as I do, I kind of got where you're coming from. But it struck me that no matter what the personal pain is, whether it's health related or physical pain or something else like a financial loss,...

...there's a way for that to be transformed. And this podcast is more generally more geared towards financial issues, while your book is much more broad in nature. But would you just take a minute and tell us a little bit about what team might look like like from a financial perspective, and also a bit about what prompted you to write the book and what you hope to accomplish through the writing of this book? So thanks, John I. Yeah, let me start with that second half of the question. First, what prompted me to write the book? First of all, was my own journey through heart disease. So I was forty nine, had emergency heart surgery, had to have bypassed and they basically told me that if I would have actually had a heart attack, I probably would have been dead before I get the ground. So it was a it was a traumatic thing. And then there was a pattern about four years where I had continual new blockages and new sent things like that, and I at the end of those four years or in the middle of it, I began asking questions. You know, what in the world's going on here, and and it's that kind of circumstance can either wipe you out for the rest of your life or you can kind of begin to see that there might be something that is redeemable here. There might be something I can learn, there might be ways I can grow and and become actually a better person. And and in the end I'm at a point now where I'm thankful for that part of my life because of what it's produced in my life. And and I think all of our challenges can happen that way. It can become that, they can be a motivation for us, they can be a time of learning, they can be a time of transformation if we will allow it to have that work in us. And so, anyway,...

...in terms of financial pain, you know the same kind of thing. Sometimes those things happen by our own choices, because we've made mistakes or we haven't planned or whatever else. Sometimes financial pain happens because of what others do. I mean there's I've got four sons. There are times when they've caused me financial pain. I know about that myself. Yes, you do, so you know. So sometimes it's the choice of choices of others. But the reality is in those conflicts we can either take the time and I think you should experience the pain. I think we should kind of allow the pain to be real in us so we don't deny it, but we accept the pain and experience it and and then we step into a new reality, step into the possibilities of what we could be from here, and we open ourselves to learn and become something news so that we could produce something new. Yeah, that was something else that we've talked about on this podcast and you know, I talked about the fact that what I what I learned in college and getting my Mba and all those formal learning issues and things that we go through. I thought I was learning everything right. I thought I got out of school and I was like I know everything, I should be able to run the company or whatever it was. And what I really found out, and I think this, I think correct me if I'm wrong, I believe what you're kind of talking about is we do need to experience that pain and through that pain is where we get experience and where we begin to learn, and we can then transform that into we can choose right whether or to transform that into something positive or sort of wallow and it gets stuck in it and and it becomes a negative thing. Right. The other the other thing too, is, and this is kind of an interesting perspective from my book, that is,...

I was reading other authors about pain and things like that. Some some things came up that the idea that that there's a story being written with your life, right, and that your life is a is a story and at the end of your life it's going to be a story. People will read that they're that it's going to make an impact in people's lives. And and no good story is tension free, is Christis free? Right, it's the it's the crisis, it's the tension, it's the that develops the character, that that creates the movement in a story. And so, I tell you so I believe that someday we're all going to be together in the presence of God and and and I want my life on earth to be a good story to tell. Yeah, right, yes, and right. And that means I have to accept the hard times, because that makes the good story. Now, it could be a tragedy if I respond the wrong way to the hard time, or it can be a great story of victory if I respond the right way and become a different man over my life and and, you know, and end up in a different place because the hard time. So so, yeah, I think I think it's those things really that make our story good story. Yeah, I like that. I think you're right. And ultimately, as you build on your life and you have these things, you go through these things, you walk through these things, it's it's good for you, but it's also good to have somebody as such as yourself to walk through these issues with you, somebody who has witnessed or experienced themselves. Some of it's not the same kind of pain, because we all experience you...

...talk about this in your book, which I think is great. We all experience pain and loss and suffering in a different way and you've got that kind of empathy and you talk about that in your book. How what is hurtful to to me may not be the same as is to you or somebody else. And you know, we talked about that in the financial world as well. What's a right investment for one person is not for another person. I talked about that in my book. I call it the snowflake theory and it has to do with our collective experiences which form are than perspectives. So I thought I really appreciated that part of your book as well. Thank yeah, I do think, you know, we can. We can care for people in their pain and we can come alongside people in their pain, but we can't really know their pain. Pain is such an individual experience and and and that's okay. But in their pain they have to realize, and not alone that, that people are there standing beside them. So everybody need to Prind in the midst of their pain. Yeah, I think that's a really key part of the book and what you you have to say and your mission and that. But I wanted to ask you sort of one one final question that the you, you've talked a little bit to me about and I think the audience would really get some value in it, is what's it look like to walk someone through pain and into a new reality, like if you're coming alongside someone else to help? How do you do that and what's it look like? Yeah, I I you know. I think first of all it starts off with you can't try to fix people situation right so they are there. Are At least at least you can give some things down the road, but...

...at least initially when you're interacting with people who are in having difficulty, you got to kind of sit there with them in it a little bit and and build a build a bit of trust and then I think from time to time you get a chance to feed in a little a little bigger perspective, to help them see their world from a larger perspective, that that something else is going on and and the thing you're going through, while it envelops you in your attention right now, it's it's not the center of the universe. And so in time, kind of helping people get that broader perspective, and I do that through coaching and and and counseling and and then and then helping people find that New Vision for first of all, for what this pain could do in their lives, for this time of crisis. What could what's the potential? What might you learn? What might how might you change in this because of this? And then pointed into what could be a better future. So and helping them kind of help discern what that Nicks with the future looks like and then what they need to do to get there. So it is this process, but it's not a it's not a you know, kind of a cookie cutter here, do these three things and answer these four questions. It really is a process that's very relational and and I think that's important because I think people need people to walk alongside them. They don't need people just telling them what to do. You know what to do, and I think that's what I appreciate about you in the way you do what you're doing, John, and that is that you you spend time with people, you care about the circumstances they're in. You don't judge how they got there and and and you're with them in the process of moving forward, and I think that's that's the value of that kind of approach, right, because again, it's not...

...your perspective that matters, it's their perspective than right, they're what they are going through, which is something that I think there's a tendency for us to project how we would feel, we think we would feel, and their situation just is not a valid way to look at things, right. Yeah. So, so, Jim, if somebody wanted to reach out to you and and first of all, they can get your book on Amazon, right, they can, yeah, transform pain, and or you can just Google Jim rinking. They'll show up right there. That's our and K are you in Kae? And so either one of those ways you can you can find Jim's book and you can get access to Jim Jim, what are some of the things that you are available to do and can do for for folks who you do some speaking? You tell us, yeah, I do speaking, I do I'll you know I can do a workshop. I've done those quite a bit. Seminars, type of approach to helping people learn about the process of getting through difficult seasons in their life with with some hope and progress. And then I've done some I do coaching for leaders especially, and anyone get hold of me. I have a I have a blog that's just Jim rankycom and then people are welcome to look that up and and you can also find me on facebook and and on twitter and you can direct message me either of those places. So, in other words, you're not hard to find. I am not hard to find now, which is good in it with what you do, is that people can find the help that they need and it's and...

I think an important point to make two before we sign off here today, is that it's not too late. Write. It doesn't matter where you are right. No, actually, you know what a good story, as long as it's a turnaround at the end, that's that's that's a good story right. That's right. Yeah, you want to make it a happy ending, right, that's right, all right. Well, again, we know how to get a hold of Jim. Jim rinkycom is where you can get a hold of him in terms of finding his blog. He's on Facebook, twitter, all the social media sites. You can find them on there and of course Amazoncom Ference Book Transformed Game, which is you can also find my my book, which corresponds to the name of this podcast, which is building your life, not a portfolio. So we'll sign off for now until next week and Jim, thanks so much for being with me on the building your life podcast again. My name is John Browning. I'm the founder of Guardian Rock Wealth and you can get in touch with me or my team at three one two, three hundred and seventy two five thousand, and it doesn't matter if you talk directly to me or not. They can get you in touch with me. And, of course, wwwwg rock wealthcom is our website and there's a spot there that you can fill out some information and will be happy to send you a copy of the book and even happier to have a conversation with you where we can talk about your personal financial situation and how we might be able to help you in the future, and you can also find us, of course, on facebook and Linkedin. So thanks everybody for joining us on the PODCAST, to day and Jim, and thank you for spending a little time with us as well, my joy. Thank you, John. All right, great, we'll see you later. So thanks for listening to the building your life podcast with John Browning. Be Sure to subscribe to this podcast...

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