Episode 46: What 80's Pop culture tells us about today's ...

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What does 80's Pop culture teach us about today's marketplace? Find out today as John Browning interviews Chris Clews. Chris draws business and financial life lessons from popular 80’s movies. You'll learn how to have more joy in life when you listen to this insightful interview.

Welcome to the build your life podcast with John Browning. Build your life as a relaxed and unedited conversation with financial expert John Browning. John's the founder of Guardian Rock Wealth, with offices in Hawaii, Colorado and Illinois. John's also the author of the book build a life, not a portfolio, a guide to your financial future based on your personal values, which you can purchase on Amazon, or stay around to the end of today's show and I'll tell you how to get a freak copy mailed right to your door. I'm Michael Delan, your host for the next few minutes as we chat with financial expert, business owner and author John Browning. Hello, everybody, this is John Browning with the build a life, not a portfolio podcast, coming to you weekly, and Michael Delan has taken a much deserved vacation of this week and we have some exciting news. We have Chris Clues with us as a guest speaker today, and Chris and I go back a goodness, it's been at what ten years or yeah, ten, yeah, about ten years. Yeah, ten years when I first met Chris and I was immediately, I think the first time I met you, Chris, I was like about this guy. This guy's kind of interesting. But what I found out is that not only does Chris have a wealth of experience and knowledge, but he's also a lot of fun. And one of the problems that we have with finance and planning your financial futures. Boy Does that sound boring. Well, Chris is anything but boring, and let me just tell you real quick a couple really interesting facts about Chris and also how to get in contact with with him if you need to. Today's podcast we've come up with a title four A, two dollars cash. Lessons for your financial and business life from s pop culture. And if you never thought you would hear something like the goonies mentioned in reference to a perfect in a professional way, well, you've come to the right place, because we are going to mention all kinds of interesting things from s pop culture, and you can. You can get in contact with Chris at Chris Clues CCL e WS One at gmailcom or n five, four, two, two, four, three, eight four four. The thing about Chris you can follow on twitter, instagram, facebook, linkedin. He's all over the place. He has spoken at events for visa, women and insurance and and financial services he's built brands for the UFC, NBA, MLB and Chris, I'd love to hear just to you know, a brief snippet about some of your experience knowledge that you gained with that. But you've got twenty years experience and the leadership marketing and just broad experience space and between the two of us I think we got fifty years of experience here. So really looking forward to what you have to say for us, you know, today and if there's other ways to get in contact, tell us a little bit about your book. I really want to want people understand what it is that you do. So without me speaking anymore, what is it that you do and tell us a little bit about your book. Thanks, John, I appreciate him and it's great to see you again. It has been about ten years since, I mean not ten years since we've seen each other, but we've known each other for about ten years so and obviously we you know, we developed a friendship and I've felt the same value. When I first met you, I was like, this guy's interesting. So it's cool that here we are ten years later doing the same thing, but different things. And Yeah, so I want to just clarify one thing with building the brands. I actually worked with different sports properties for the brands that I was doing marketing for. So I was a marketing leadership positions in financial services and logistics with that agencies and I worked with with sports brands like the UFC, Major League Baseball College basketball and built sponsorships with them to promote our brands, the brands that I was in marketing leadership positions for. So yeah, so I did marketing leadership,...

...or I was in marketing for twenty plus years, twenty two, twenty three years. I started with planet Hollywood back in the mid S, back when it was just really hot property and people would wait three hours in line to get a hamburger at the planet Hollywood Orlando. That's actually a true story. They would wait in the hopes that they would see a celebrit the inside, because often there were some of them eating there during that time frame. And I worked for a few AD agencies, some high end Swiss Watch company who blow, and then worked for DHL and of course you and I work together in financial services. I did some marketing leadership there and yes, I can attest to the fact that even in marketing it's difficult sometimes to do really cool marketing and financial services because they're all of these compliance things that happen in the background. Not a bad thing, actually a good thing for people, for the average consumer, that there is so much compliance. So you should know that if you're an average consumer that's looking to plan your retirement or financial planning, there is an awful lot of compliance in the background for marketing now and that is a very, very good thing. Yeah, so I left the corporate world a couple of years ago and started right I wrote a book series what s pop culture teaches us about today's workplace. I have two books in that series. I'm working on the third now, which is really going to be about life lessons. Maybe these pop culture rather than workplace culture lessons. And I left because a couple of reasons. One is I love marketing. I still do some marketing consulting, so I really love doing marketing, but I felt like there was something else out there for me and I was in a job that was just kind of challenging for me in terms of getting excited, and I think a lot of people have been there. I came home, I watched the breakfast club and Bender's character said screws fall out all the time. The world's an imperfect place and I was in my imperfect place. My screws had fallen out and the question was, what was I going to do? Was I going to just pick up those screws and put them back in? Was I going to find some new screws? Was I going to build a brand new door, put that door in and walk through it? which is exactly what I did. And I took that analogy or metaphor whatever you want to call it, and I actually created an article for Linkedin on what the breakfast club taught us about the workplace, and I got a really good response, and I wrote one about Ferris Bueller and work life balance and got an equally good response, which drove me to write the books that I have now today. There was one other quote from a movie, the outsiders. Johnny cade said you still have a lot of time to make yourself be what you want, and that really resonated with me because I was forty seven when this kind of epiphany hit me and I was forty eight when I left the corporate world. I'm fifty now. That idea of you still have a lot of time to make yourself be what you want. And we think of entrepreneurs a lot of times we think of people in their s and s. You know, they've got their entire life ahead of him. And not to say that I don't, because I just kicked off the second half, hopefully, and uh, but you know, at forty eight years old, leaving the corporate roal, leaving the stability of the corporate world to go out on your own. You know, that's that's a that can be a exciting thing but also a terrifying thing, and I think that idea of you still have a lot of time to make yourself be what you want was something to really resonated with me, and here I am today doing it. Yeah, and that's it, you know, because that's exactly the reason that I that I wrote my book build a life, not a portfolio, and it's about, you know, what is it that you really want and and maybe you need to take that step out there right yeah, and totally. And you know, it's not just because you're fifty, not just because you're six, seventy, I mean, it doesn't matter. Don't matter. It's a you know, it's it's your mindset and it's what you want and understanding why you want what you want, and that's a lot of what we talked about with with our with our clients. Is is okay, you've told me what you what you want, but let's think about that. Why do you want and what really brings you joy? Right, yeah, and a lot of times people find out, Hey, I don't need ten million dollars when I retire. Actually only need to or and wow, I could retire today, and there's all sorts of different things. We even have a chapter in the book called The snowflake theory. Two talks about the fact that everybody's different, and so I really appreciate that about you and about what you do. And so let's say, you know, one of the things I wanted to to ask...

...you about was the title. Right, two dollars cash. What were you thinking about when you kind of came up with the title for this podcast? Yeah, so you know obviously the the financial industry, financial business that you're in, I. Act. I started thinking about what would be a good title for this particular episode, and two dollars cash actually refers to a movie better off dead, which was a kind of a I guess you would call like an underrated s movie. It's one of those called classics. It's at the dark comedy with John Cusack and Diane Franklin. Diane Franklin Plays Monique, is love interest, and she actually wrote the forward for my second book, which was really cool really exciting for me. She happen also be in bill and Tad zex on eventure, the last American version, so she was definitely a big time s actress. And the two dollars cash comes from the fact that during the movie John Cusack's character is trying to avoid the paper boy who they owe two dollars to. His family ows two dollars for the deliveries and we see this paper boy, Johnny Gasparini, come up to his door and say, you know, I think how many papers it was? Exactly off the top of my head, but let's call it like six papers, two dollars, you know, US two dollars cash, and coussacks character comes up with all the reasons why he can't give him the cash. And the entire movie there's different scenes where the the paper boy shows up and he wants his money and he says two dollars and he takes a switchblade comb and switch does his hair and says two dollars cash, and so this this this kind of I thought this was a good one because there's a great lesson in there, actually a serious lesson about for business people, and it's about paying your vendors on time, whether they're small or large. And I think what happens, what tends to happen when you work in a larger corporation, you focus on paying your larger vendors first, when it's actually the smaller vendors who should be, you know, equal to the larger vendors in terms of paying them on time. You know, if somebody gives you an invoice for thirty days, especially a smaller company, they're relying on that cash to come in to sustain their business, and so it's really important that we learn that lesson. We don't want this person having to chase us around asking us for the two dollars cash, particularly better off debt, or he gets all his friends one night on there, all of his paper boy friends on their paperboy bikes, to chase him through the night trying to get their two dollars cash. So I think there's a really important lesson. They're about, you know, being ethical and moral and paying your vendors on time. Got Yeah, yeah, and you know, I love that lesson and I love that too, and applied to applied to our personal financial lives too, because sometimes we forget to pay ourselves and that can that's actually the most important person to pay right. Yes, make sure that you're saving for your financial future and the treat yourself like a vendor and make sure you're on time with that. And so let me ask you something else too, and this is something that we talked about a lot here in financial services and and it's about the importance of balance and and balancing your in your financial life and your personal life and your business life and your personal life, but also balance in the way that your investments are invested. So you don't want to be all in, you know, a particular stock. Oh, that's a hot stock, you know, I heard that on CNBC. And so let's just put, you know, the whole Portfoli, or half the poor polder in a quarter of the portfolio in one stock. So something about the importance of balance. What do you what do you think about that? Yeah, I love it. So a couple of things about balance. We can talk about balance in the context of you personally or your employees and making sure that they have balanced and we can talk about balance in terms of work life balance. So let's kind of start with the the first one that I mentioned. There's a you know, the Karate Kid, obviously classic s movie and Incredibly Hot Right now because of Cobra Kai on Netflix, which is just kind of blown up. And I got to tell you,...

...like I s, I do a lot of podcasts and I always make sure to mention this. I'm so happy for William Zavka, who plays Johnny, because I think he's a really great actor and he had these great these great roles in the s. A lot of them were kind of bullying rolls and then he kind of fell off the map a little bit and for him have a second bite at the Apple Through Cob Cobra Ki is awesome and I'm really excited to see where his career goes from Cobra Kai, because I really he is a really good actor. It's really excited to see him back. So had going back to Cook Karate Kid, Mr Miyagi at one point tells Daniel Son in the original karate kid don't forget to breathe. Very important. This is a really valuable lesson for all of us because if you've ever had stress, it's like dehydration. Right once you realize you have it, it's too late. And I've had dehydration and I've had stress, and so both of them are equally bad and both of them take equal a amounts of time to recover. It sometimes at the hydration and takes several days. Well, the same thing with stress. And if we think about this idea of breathing, it can be for ourselves, it can be for our our employees as well. Everybody needs space to breathe, and breathe can be different things to different people. It could be a cup of coffee, a cup of tea, it could be playing with your dog or your kid, it could be taking a run, going to the gym, it could just be sitting down and meditating and literally taking a breath. But it's really important that you do that. This idea of don't forget to breathe, because too many of us do and that's when stress starts to build up and then before you know it you're at that breaking point where that stress is impacting you mentally, physically, could be impacting your relationships, and so it's a really easy thing to train yourself to do. We breathe seventeen thousand and thirty thousand times a day involuntarily, and that's a good thing for someone like me, because if we had to think about breathing, I probably wouldn't made it. So it's really good thing that we actually involuntarily breathe. But it is really important. Your employees, yourself, your family, everybody needs that time to breathe. Don't forget to do it because if you again, if you've ever had dehydration, you know it's horrible thing, just like stress, and so don't forget. The breathe very important. The second part of balance is this idea, and it kind of ties into that one too. It's kind of this idea of work life balance, and we got that from fairst Bueller. Obviously you know Fairis Bueller's Day off, the quintessential day off, right, and everybody could use one of those. And I think when we think about FAIRST BUELL or most people get entertained by fair us and they think about him and how he had this great day off. But there is a deeper message in Ferris Bueller and what happened to me was. I grew up watching these movies in it. As an adult I watched them again and I took away these different lessons and different perspectives. So I'm going to throw something at you with Ferris, and I think a lot of people may not think about when Ferris took that day off. He took Sloane, his girlfriend, who was super optimistic, positive person, Ferris, super optimistic, positive guy, and his friend Cameron, the most miserable, negative person on the face of the earth. And Right. I mean, you remember when he was trying to get him to come with him on his day off. He said, I can't go, I'm dying, you know, and he says no, you're coming with us, you're coming with me. He doesn't take this time off. You know, when he gets to college his roommates going to kill him. And so he talks about the fact that's cameron is just wound up really tight. And sparres and Sloane or not. Now Ferris, by principal route standards, had taken nine days off for nine times he'd been absent. Right. So he would plan these days and we see Ferris plan this day very meticulously. All of these things have to go right for this day to be pulled off, so he spends a lot of time planning it. Now you would think if he did that he would want to have the best day ever and they would avoid inviting his friend Cameron, who could create real problems the day with his negativity, his pessimism. Why would you bring somebody like that along when you could just go enjoy the day with you're really positive and optimistic girlfriend and have a great time, particularly with the planning that they did? Well, this is where the lesson comes in and I think people miss with Ferris, it's a selfless act that fairest did all throughout that movie. He didn't take that day off for him or his girlfriend. He took that day off for Cameron, his friend who needed it the most, and throughout the movie he reminds us...

...of that. Throughout the movie he's trying to show cameron a good time. He could have just gone on his own, like I said, and had a great day, but he chose to bring his friend. And what does he teach us there? It's a really selfless act about making sure that you're paying attention to the people around you, whether it's a friend or CO worker. This idea that everybody needs time off and looking for that person that Cameron in your life, whether that person's in your workplace or in your home life, or a friend that needs that time off, because when we help a friend, we help ourselves in the process, and I think that's what Ferris taught us more than anything. Yes, have a good time, yes, have some work life balance for yourself, but, more importantly, find that person who needs it more than you do and get them out there as well. It's maybe just for lunch or a cup of coffee, it could be for an entire day, but when we help a friend, we help ourselves in the process, and I think that's what Ferris taught us more than anything. Yeah, that's the love that movie, by the way. Yeah, great movie, and you've come up with two of my absolute favorite avery s movies in just the past couple of minutes here, so that's awesome. And we figure out a way to get talk down in there, I think we'd be my top three. Yeah, top gun is coming, you know, not a lot of the beyond, like the karate kid and maybe ghostbusters. In my second book, what I really tried to do was focus on movies where you didn't expect lessons to come from, and you know top gun as a ton of leadership lessons, but I wanted to focus on well, this guy on my shirt, jess PIC Coolie, Fast Times Richmond High, teaches us some great lessons and people would really not expect that. So yeah, yeah, and by the way, just just so we get it out there, you know, what is the best way for people to contact you? For speaking engagements or or just to get in canton, maybe for some writing? You do a lot of writing for people as well, right. What's the best way for them to get in contact with you? Yeah, so Chris cluescom. C HRISCL EWSCOM is my website. That's a great way to get ahold of me. SEE CLUES ONE AT GMAILCOM is another way to get ahold of me. Nine hundred and fify four two, two, forty three eight four four. You mentioned that at the beginning. And then, of course social media. So I have Chris Clues S at Chris Clues s eight Zeros for Instagram, at s pop culture, for twitter. I couldn't believe that was available at s pop culture, and then Chris Clues on facebook and Linkedin. So a variety of ways. Yeah, yeah, and then is you can tell Chris is is great, especially if you get him in front of a group of people where he getting even more energy than he has right here. So so he's a great I do it from a blockbuster story. Yeah, and that's that's the great thing to you know who they're used to seeing me with, you know, the office in the in the background, and you and you've got this great background with blockbuster video, which we all remember the days of yester year going in the blockbuster and getting pay in those late fees. Right. Oh, yeah, and I missed the whever I see this background behind me, the first thing it reminds me of is going there on a Friday or Saturday night and waiting by the return been to see if somebody was going to return the movie that I was waiting for. Yes, that that I would spend an hour and a half just at that been waiting. Right. Yeah, I would too. I remember that. Yeah, because all this is only so many of these things available. Yeah, yeah, great time. So you both of us grew up in the S, didn't we? Yes, awesome decade. Awesome decade. That's right. Well, I tell you what, we're getting close to the end of our time. But I before we leave, what's it? What is a good financial lesson that you've come about? You could kind of give us from a lesson from the S. Yeah, so how much time do we have? We got we got another five minutes or sew. Okay, cool. I'm gonna throw two lessons at you. One is more of the kind of a financial lesson, but it's contracts and things like that, and the second one is a leadership lesson that I want to leave everybody with right. So the first one is going to come from a movie called the lost boys in the s. It Start Corey Ham and cory felt in the two quarries and basically, if you haven't seen the movie, key for Sutherland plays probably the most, the greatest vampire, in my opinion, of all time, and there's these kids who want a comic book store. There's vampires are infesting their town.

They're killing everybody. The two kids actually end up, the three kids, actually three of the kids, end up solving their vampire problem in their town, but during the movie they're the older brother is infatuated with this girl, Jamie Gertz, while her name is Starr in the in the movie, but Jamie Gertz as the actress, and he follows her to the vampire layery. He doesn't know he's there and the main vampire key for sutherlands gives him a drink and says drink this, and so he's looking at it and it looks like wine and the girl star says to him, don't drink it, Michael, it's blood, it's blood. Don't drink it because he'll become obviously become a vampire if he does. He ignores her because he wants to kind of fit in and he drinks it and obviously, you know, the rest is history. Starts to become a vampire. But there's an important lesson here about terms and conditions in a contract. Right sometimes we're so anxious and excited to be part of a new partnership or a new business or or a new job that we just kind of sign on the dot in line without really looking at the fine print in the terms and conditions. And it's really important that we do that. If we don't have somebody next to us like star saying don't do it, don't do it. Read the fine print, read the terms and conditions, which sometimes get so excited we want to be part of something, that we sign something too quickly without asking the right questions, but without looking at the terms and conditions. So I think that's a lesson from the lost boys that we can all learn when it comes to finances, in particularly contracts, whether it be in our personal life, our business life or anywhere else. HMM, that's one and my book I go a lot deeper into that lesson, but you know, you get to kind of get the idea. He with the terms and conditions and fine print. No one. No one want. Well, maybe some people want to be a vampire. I don't, but some people might. So the second lesson, of course, this lesson I want to leave you with, is a leadership lesson. It's from one of my favorite musicians and that's Prince, and I love Prince to this day. Can listen to prince albums over and over again. And yes, I say albums, because you know that's what it was in the s. A you're so friends and you're they're coming back the other they're coming back the vinyl. Yeah, finals awesome. I have a record player myself. Shockingly so prince one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven. He's the King of music. I know the people say Michael Jackson was the King of Pop. Fine Prince was the king of music. He was writing music for people like the Bangles and Shinde O'Connor and multitude of other groups. There's a lot of eighty songs. You'd be surprised that he wrote when you look them up. And then, of course, played multiple instruments. You Know Purple Rain movie with the Soundtrack. I believe he composed a symphony, all kinds of stuff. So anyway, great guy. He Susiane Vega and one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven was an alt singer and she had a song called leftist center and then she had the song my name is Luca, the second floor of the upstairs from you. Yeah, that's that singer. So that's all you're going to get. So, Susianne Vega, my name is Luca Prince. Here's the song. He's so moved by the song. Did He actually penned to handwritten note to her that says dear Suzanne Luke. Is the most compelling piece of music I've heard in a long time. There are no words to tell you all the things I feel when I hear it. I thank God for you, Prince, and he got this an writtens her. It's really awesome because remember, one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven, no digital means to get something to somebody had to take that handwritten note and get it to her somehow, where there was him or someone else who delivered it. We know she got it because in two thousand and sixteen, when he passed away, she put it on social media for everybody to see, to know the kind of guy he was behind the scenes, and that's where we get our lesson from him. He was on the biggest stage in the world and yet he wanted to share it. He saw somebody doing something great and he said, Hey, I see your greatness, I see what you're doing. I want to share the stage with you. I want to let you know that you're doing something great. The difference between rulers and leaders. When rulers get the stage of success, they keep everybody below it. They don't want to share it because they're afraid someone's going to steal their spotlight or maybe be better than them. They want to keep everybody below it. They want that power. Leaders share the stage of success, and that's what Prince did. He said, Hey, I see you, Susan and Vega, I see you doing something great. There's a place for you on this stage. You should come up here, keep doing what you're doing, because people are going to see it. And that's an idea about encouragement as well, giving her that boost of selfconfidence. We can all do that as managers, leaders,...

...as for people in in our personal life as well. Encouragement doesn't cost a thing, and I think that's a really important lesson to Prince taught us. Yeah, yeah, that's really that is really fascinating. I've heard that story before about Luca and I love that song. Yes, you know, it's it's it's maybe not uplifting, but it is got some deep, deep meaning. And deep meaning, yes, very deep. Yeah, yeah, so I love that lesson. I just think, you know, I love prints and after I heard that story, I just there was for me it was, yeah, this is amazing. I got to tell, I got to share the story of this many people as possible. They need to know it. Yeah, yeah, that's great. And dear to your previous mention about reading that fine print and really, you know, doing the analysis, even if you're excited about something. Yeah, we run into that all the time and financial planning. You know, they hear whatever it is on CNBC or from their brother in law at or somebody at the water cooler about a particular stock that they get very excited and they they want to have it in their portfolio when it might not be appropriate for them and when you dig into the details of that company and do the analysis, it might not actually be as wonderful as as the popular media would have you believe. So we spend a decent amount of time, you know, research. Sometimes it is and sometimes it's appropriate. Sometimes it's a great stock, but it's you know, when that happens, typically it's either already in your portfolio or on the way in there anyway. But that's a great life lessons from the S. and again we've got the information about how to contact you. Chris is a fantastic speaker and and also a writer as well if you need content, and of course you all know how to get in touch with me again. Of My name is John Browning. I wrote the book build a life amount of portfolio. It's on Amazon and if you'd like a free copy of that book, just go out to Guardian Rock wealthcom and fill out the contact us information or just to email me direct jade browning at advocacy investingcom. And of course we're advocacy investingcom because we don't have any sales people here at Guardian rock wealth. We only have advocates for you and what you're trying to do. So looking forward to talking to anybody on here who has, you know, a need or just needs a little bit of help. We're happy to talk to anybody free of charge and and hopefully get you started off on the right path that success and build your road map into building your life, not just your portfolio. Chris, has been wonderful to have you today. Any parting comments to let people know about before we leave? Yeah, a great holiday gift. I've got two books in my series. I would tell you that the first one is kind of an appetizer. It's about eighty pages. It's just fun. It's not very deep, but if you like a s pop culture you enjoy it. The second book, the Black Cover, is actually much deeper. It's about two hundred and thirty twenty pages or so, really deep into the lessons from s movies. So that one's I think you'll learn a lot more from and that's an actual what I would call book rather than cliff notes, which is what the first one is. Both available on Amazon. Great Stocking stuffers are great presence for that person in your life who loves the S. all right, fantastic and again, just as it reminded, it, minder to everybody the borings up here is this is not personal investment advice. We can only do that over the phone, with a direct conversation with you, or in person. We still do in person meetings, believe it or not, during the whole pandemic and we would love to have that personal conversation with you. And of course, past performance not a guarantee a future results. So that's part of that compliance that we talked about earlier. Chris, it's been great to have you on the podcast and we will see you soon. Thanks, John, for the megaphone. Stay right, everybody. All right, the bye money really is a big part of our lives and John Browning can help you and your family learn how to keep money in the proper perspective. It's important, but it's only a tool that could help you build the...

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